25 November 2008

Quibbles, qualms, and intellectual dishonesty

Migoy sent me an e-mail earlier this evening, containing two editorials by The Varsitarian, the official student publication of the University of Santo Tomas. The first editorial was about the 2008 THE-QS rankings, which I wrote about a few days after the rankings were released. The second was about the position taken by some faculty members at the Ateneo regarding the Reproductive Health Bill.

I've spoken to a few people and have given quick reactions. But I'd like to to share the salient points, even if it does come off as me sounding like an Ateneo apologist. I am, admittedly, and quite obviously, a hardcore Ateneo fan, but I'd like to think that I can be pretty reasonable, especially when it comes to things like this.

(This is a long post, by the way.)

In very general terms, my main gripe with both editorials is this: Both of them share a similar theme calling for some "intellectual honesty." But in my own opinion, the authors of the editorials have failed to comply with the standard they have set for themselves.

On "Dazed and confused-at 500"

I found this reaction to the THE-QS results pretty interesting, mainly because it was the angriest one I've seen from any of the Philippine schools evaluated by the survey. UP's position has been pretty calm and clear: They did not participate in the rankings. La Salle's school paper has an even "cooler" reaction: The rankings are "no big deal," even if La Salle did make a lot of noise when it reacted to the rankings with jubilation, fanfare, advertisements, and brochures in 2006. The Ateneo didn't publish an official position unlike in 2006 and 2007, but was kind enough to publish the reaction I wrote (I do not know if that means we can take that as the de facto position of the Ateneo, though).

But this Varsitarian editorial was something else. Drawing on statements made by university officials, it makes the case that the rankings are problematic, if not flat-out wrong, and made the assertion that the best schools in the Philippines are UP and UST, not the Ateneo and UP. Their basis? Performance measures in government-mandated licensing examinations conducted by the Professional Regulation Commission (PRC), as well as their own analysis of the survey. That much, I can accept. But what caused me to nearly spill my coffee all over my desk was the way the editorial was crafted.

They began with a disclaimer: "This is not to disparage Ateneo..." and then proceeded to bash the Ateneo while making a case for UST. That's performative contradiction. That's dishonest.

They then go on to characterize the Ateneo as "an institution that’s barely an expanded liberal arts college and with only a smattering (sic) of degree programs tested by state licensure exams." Okay, two points.

First, an expanded liberal arts college? Last I checked, most major institutions of learning not just in the Philippines but on Earth are "expanded liberal arts colleges." I'm no educational historian, but last I checked, most of the models of Western education draw heavily from an expansion of the original liberal arts disciplines. Harvard therefore is an incredibly expanded liberal arts college. So is Yale. And Oxford and Cambridge, even if they are of the tradition of the guilds coming together as universitas all crafted some sort of liberal arts program (the "Trivium" and "Quadrivium" of medieval universities) which has been expanded into what they are today. So are a whole lot of schools in the list, including the Ateneo, including UST.

So were they saying that we're really just a tiny school with a tiny milieu? Then that means the editorial's authors have failed to appreciate the fact that our approaches to education differ greatly, at least in how we craft our program offerings. And they have likewise failed to account for the fact that we are small by design, because of what we want to emphasize and because of what our declared vision and mission are. Incidentally, expanded liberal arts college Yale University is even smaller than the Ateneo in terms of undergraduate enrollment, but it's way up there.

Is it because we do not have a lot of programs tested by the PRC with some sort of post-graduation exam? Then I wonder what they think about Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Oxford, Cambridge, Stanford, UChicago, Duke, Louvain, and all those other schools with a "smattering" (sic) of programs that are tested by some sort of PRC. And I have been pretty adamant about this whenever this topic gets brought up: Why do we place so much emphasis on "performance" (in the sense of getting the ridiculously important #1 test-taker spot) as regards such exams? Performance in licensing exams is hardly the best measure of "academic excellence," much less "comparable" academic excellence. This is probably the very simple reason why no international league table uses them as a measure.

Then they bring up centers of excellence. The number of centers of excellence/development is an unreliable benchmark. This is because some schools offer more programs than others. And this also depends on the approach each institution takes as regards the development of particular programs. The Ateneo, for example, has been pretty adamant about not offering an Accountancy program, mainly because of its emphasis on organizational leadership rather than line-level work such as accountancy (this is with all due respect to accountants, of course, although any Ateneo management major will tell you that they go through hell with 9 units of accounting and at least 3 more of finance). What these measure, rather, is the quality of individual programs as compared to other programs of the same kind. Therefore, when we say that the Ateneo is a Center of Excellence in terms of Business Administration and Entrepreneurship, it means that it satisfies the rigid criteria for "excellence" in the field vis-a-vis other business administration or entrepreneurship programs. When we say that the Ateneo is a center of excellence in Philosophy, it means that among all those schools that offer Philosophy as a program, the Ateneo has (one of?) the best.

On their quip about national artists and scientists: First, yes, this speaks about the quality of a particular school's alumni or alumnae, but this does not necessarily say anything about the quality of academic programs offered at present, especially with regard to the criteria evaluated by a particular survey. Second, among these national artists and scientists, can we really, truly, and without doubt say that their excellence is the "fault" of their matriculating in a particular school, or are they simply brilliant on their own?

Then they go on to bash the Ateneo as an institution only affordable by the wealthy, hence the good student-faculty ratio. They have not even bothered to do research as regards individual scholarship programs offered by the four THE-QS-ranked schools (and might have found that close to one in five Ateneo students is receiving some sort of financial aid).

After that, they go into some rant about who would want to study in the third world. Um, first of all, the people who actually LIVE in the third world and have no choice but to actually study here? There are also those people who want to be exposed to the perspectives of our poor little third world!

But wait, there's more! They also rant about competing with Harvard. The thing is, the question is not about competing with Harvard. Competing with Harvard, if even imagined, is something that is going to be very difficult, simply because Harvard works very hard, regardless of the rankings, to maintain its preeminence. For one, it continually works to make sure that it has the financial wherewithal to run its programs and to do what it wants to do (it has an endowment of $36.9 billion), while allowing access to those who cannot ordinarily afford to spend $40,000++ a year on tuition. The size of Harvard is also another thing that allows it to simply churn out research with impunity (its college is roughly the size of the Ateneo's, but it does have around 13,500 graduate students, in addition to thousands of faculty members) and do work with impunity. But then again, size doesn't matter: Remember Yale.

And who the hell says Harvard's perfect? Harvard isn't even the top choice of many, many, many Americans, all of whom would be far happier matriculating at either Yale, Stanford, Dartmouth, or NYU. Many Harvard students, as reported in the US News magazine a year or so ago, find that Harvard can be a very impersonal place for a student, saying that some faculty are more interested in doing research than teaching. Or consider the fact that other schools have a far more "rock-star" faculty roster: The University of Chicago, for example, has, if I remember correctly, the most number of Nobel Laureates teaching in the faculty (it also once counted Hannah Arendt, T.S. Eliot, and some other school-of-thought defining names among its faculty, as well as the next leader of the free world, Barack Obama).

I don't mind the Varsitarian taking up the cudgels for UST. Or for wanting to boost morale.

But as a paper that actually thinks it is one of the best school papers around, it has certainly failed to engage in the journalistic practice of seeking balance. The greatest failure of this editorial is that it is extremely myopic, and that it failed to account for the official positions taken by the school it bashed. The greatest failure of the authors is that they have failed to do their homework in order to examine their agenda properly. But then again, I don't think that's measured in board exams.


On "Dishonest, mediocre, anti-poor"

This editorial was bashing right from the start. Allow me to quote the entire first paragraph in full:

"BY ISSUING a statement supporting the population-control bill, Reproductive Health (RH) Bill 5043, the 14 faculty members of the other Catholic university—Ateneo de Manila– betray the canker that may eat into any Catholic institution that, while inherently holy, has tendencies toward evil. Star Wars calls it the Dark Side, St. Thomas Aquinas calls it concupiscence. We simply call it intellectual dishonesty."

Excuse me? By issuing an honest, intellectual position, presumably done with some contemplation of their own faith, these people suddenly "betray...tendecies toward evil"?

The Varsitarian's set-up is as follows: "Since they teach in a Catholic institution, the 14 should either have the readiness to defend the Catholic position or at least have the sensitivity to refrain from doing something that would divide the Church. But not only do these self-proclaimed Catholic educators break away from the Catholic position and urge Catholics to do so: they twist Catholic teachings to suit their self-serving position."

Three points: First, last I checked, even Catholic institutions of higher learning have historically encouraged some form of intellectual exchange and debate, all in the spirit of what is called "academic freedom" or some form of enlightened inquiry. Second, I have always assumed that even if one teaches in a Catholic school, or any religious institution, he or she is still free to give his or her two cents on a matter of controversy, even if he or she is reasonably expected to "tow the line" when it comes to certain things. Third, I do not think the Varsitarian understands that the position of these faculty members is NOT the Ateneo's official position, which, according to University President Fr. Bienvenido Nebres, S.J., is in line with the position of the Church hierarchy (I disagree with it to an extent, but I will concede and respect that position).

Before I continue, a "disclaimer:" I am not a model Catholic. I do not attend Mass regularly. I disagree with many men of the cloth, and have had no qualms talking about my disagreements with them. Oh, and I am a sinner—whatever God you and I believe in knows this very well. But that said, let me offer in my defense the following: I will be the first to admit that I have yet to come to terms with my faith, even if I can very easily parrot the Catechism of the Church with fanfare and aplomb (and except for the few snags in my Theology classes, I've gotten very good grades in all of my religion-related classes ever since I can remember). I also respect priests, pastors, preachers, and religious people—and I believe that talking to them is worth my time even if I do not agree with them and even if I know that I am smart enough to even poke fun at them from time to time. And I am not proud of the wrong things I've done, and I am even less cheery about the fact that I know that I have not made reparations for all of them, and that I probably never will. Heaven and karma know that I have, in one way or another, been trying to become a better person. And I will be the first to admit that I probably have to go to church more.

That said, I was pretty interested when the first news of this new reproductive health bill came out, mainly because I felt that there could be some pretty interesting debate about that. Debate. Exchange. To use a Jesuit catchphrase, "discernment." And I welcomed the position taken by those faculty members because I found it remarkable that teachers in a Catholic school were putting up a rather direct challenge to official Catholic positions. Positions which, if I am correct, are the subject of constant discussion, even within the Church itself, especially since many Catholics want to live with a "thinking" faith.

I hope to high heavens that doesn't mean I'm "evil," or that I betray some sort of evil tendencies. Of course, the sarcastic or self-righteous will quote the Genesis passage about eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and how that led to our banishment from Eden.

I will not argue with the "extensive" list of citations (however self-serving) made by the Varsitarian's editors in order to justify their Ateneo and Ateneo-professor-bashing position. Nor will I engage them on the level of what may very well be their own "intellectual mediocrity." I will, however, hazard an opinion and say that: First, I think that the Philippines is too populated for its own good, especially in the urban sprawl of Metro Manila, and that this population problem contributes to the inaccessibility to or inability or lack of adequate health services, and that the population problem is a contributing factor to the very real state of poverty. Second, I do not think that we can sustain the current trajectory of population growth, based on whatever model we choose, because I do not foresee any change in living conditions in this country that can keep up with our population growth. Third, I do think that there is some sort of validity to the assertion that our population growth is not sustainable in a manner that promotes balance with our already fragile environment and resources situation—the more our population grows, the bigger our "footprint," the more taxed our resources, the less are available for distribution.

Okay. I hope that doesn't mean I'm evil yet.

On the point on the centrality of the human person, the Varsitarian makes the assertion that the RH bill seems to treat the unborn like a disease that must be checked. I agree that the unborn should not be treated that way. But I do wish that the Varsitarian's editors gave a bit more thought to what the bill means for the living. Contrary to their assertion that the bill allows government to "compel" people to purchase contraceptives or to engage in some form of state-regulated population control measure that "compels" them to have two children per couple. The text of the bill is crystal clear: No passage demands purchase of contraceptives, but merely making them available. And the "ideal family size" of two children per couple is, very clearly stated in Sec. 16, "neither mandatory nor compulsory." It is merely "encouraged." Before engaging in hysterics or parroting some official UST position, the Varsitarian editors should have read the bill properly. And if they doubted their ability to interpret its provisions, I'm sure that there would have been many lawyers in UST's esteemed Faculty of Civil Law that could have shared an insight or two as regards proper statutory construction. Their failure to do so, whether deliberate or not, seen in the context of their going trigger-happy when it comes to bashing, is utterly telling.

What the bill offers is choice. What sort of choice? The bill offers presumably mature adults choices as regards what sort of family-planning methods they may consider appropriate given their socio-economic circumstances. And it offers solutions and alternatives to families that are sensitive to the fact that people make mistakes, that scared women may want abortions, and that people may want to be more educated about what they can do. The bill makes sex education mandatory. I do not see how that can be wrong, or how it necessarily follows that kids who know a bit more about the birds and bees will want to make honey. On the other hand, I think that mandatory sex education is a good thing, because it provides an opportunity to come to terms, at least academically, with sex. Sex is not an evil thing, and being educated about it, about the issues attached to it, and the responsibilities that can arise because of it, is not a bad thing. In that regard, the bill cannot be said to be evil or against the unborn, because it allows for the strengthening of the living. The bill has no pretensions about protecting the living from life.

The bill is far from perfect, of course. And I am not certain if the policies can be implemented properly, or if the cost—quoted by the Varsitarian at Php1.2 billion—is something that we can spare. I agree that there is a need for government to address the health care situation in the Philippines and allocate funds properly and not merely push money towards more condoms or diaphragms or pills. I would think, of course, that this bill is one solution among others, and that it is not intended to operate alone. The fact that this matter is seriously being considered by government can be seen, if only to be optimistic, as some sort of positive action by government to address a social problem. Government isn't perfect—you can read my other blog posts and see that I agree with that point very much—but at least it is willing to consider doing something here.

Of course, that's my opinion, which I hope is not evil.

I understand that the Church has its official positions. And I understand that it has a duty to engage society, especially when it comes to matters of faith and morals, and that these matters are intrinsically tied up with actual living conditions. That's a good thing. But I do not think it is the Church's place to make impositions. Nor do I think the Church or its people can say that they are doing their job properly if they simply take a hard line stance on this matter without being willing to engage in meaningful discussion. This is why I welcome the opinion of some religious leaders to actually talk about this, or to propose alternative pieces of legislation. And I seriously do not think it is within the competence of the Church's hierarchy to determine, without bias, appropriate forms of social policy. But I do appreciate the fact that it is the Church's competence to at least tell us what the Christian faith says

I also understand that the Church is largely acting on matters of faith and doctrine. I will not be one to say doctrine is flat-out wrong, because I am certain that it comes from a good place and is also the product of the conscience of Church leaders, graced by God and His Spirit. However, even as a Christian, I will not be so irresponsible to simply take what the Church says as gospel truth without doing myself or my faith the proper service of thinking.

A strict, regimented, and unthinking subscription to doctrine has never been the point of any faith. Salvation is. Evangelization is. The point of the Christian faith can be summed up in two sentences: (1) Christ has died, Christ has risen, Christ will come again. (2) Love one another. The Reproductive Health Bill does not change the first. It does not render the second impossible, and in fact may be an expression of the second point. Of course, that's me trying to wax philosophical.

Blind faith is folly. Blind faith is irresponsible. Blind faith would lead us to sustain the position that the universe revolved around the earth, and then cause us to apologize to Galileo hundreds of years later when empirical data confirms that he was correct. Blind faith is contrary to the freedom of will that I believe and that the Church teaches my Creator gave me. And while freedom is never absolute, I know that God respects me enough and loves me enough to let me act according to conscience. And if I am wrong, I will appreciate being told about it, so that I can I can ask for the forgiveness that I know God will give.

That, I hope, is not evil.

Perhaps I may be wrong, and perhaps the Varsitarian's editors meant the best of things when they wrote what they did. But I cannot deny the fact that these are skilled writers, who must have been able to properly calibrate their language in order to achieve the effect that they wanted.

And the language of the editorial reads much like the Pharisees and Sadducees that emphasized doctrine rather than the salvation of people, or in legal terms, the letter of the law more than its spirit. The language is clear and telling when it disparages, defames, and demeans the 14 individuals (there are more than 14 now, which the Varsitarian failed to note) who, exercising their faith and their conscience, applying what their own limited reason allowed them to perceive, issued a statement in favor of an imperfect piece of legislation. The Varsitarian editors crucified these professors, even as the editors tried to deceptively set the agenda as one that supposedly favored Christian faith and morals on the centrality of the human person.

I do not think I am wrong, but hope I am when I say: That's evil.


13 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are you sic-ing the word smattering? When was the last time you checked the dictionary? Smattering (Noun): a small scattered number or amount (The Merriam-Webster Dictionary)

“They then go on to characterize the Ateneo as "an institution that’s barely an expanded liberal arts college and with only a smattering (sic) of degree programs tested by state licensure exams." Okay, two points.” [Because it is. Ateneo is barely a university. How come it’s better than UP based on this survey? That’s the point of the editorial, which you did not get.]

“Incidentally, expanded liberal arts college Yale University is even smaller than the Ateneo in terms of undergraduate enrollment, but it's way up there.” [But Yale has WAY more programs than the Ateneo. Check the Yale site. You’d wan’t to study there.]

“Why do we place so much emphasis on "performance" (in the sense of getting the ridiculously important #1 test-taker spot).” [No. Emphasis is on the NUMBER of examinees who PASSED, not on the number of No. 1’s like what your law school badly wants every year. These are two different things. The former gives you an indication of the quality of students, a “key result area” just like what many Ateneo managers demand of their underlings from other schools.]

“This is probably the very simple reason why no international league table uses them as a measure.” [Yeah, they use perception, a REALLY more reliable measure.]

“Then they bring up centers of excellence. The number of centers of excellence/development is an unreliable benchmark. This is because some schools offer more programs than others.” [Precisely. Ateneo is barely an expanded liberal arts college.]

“The Ateneo, for example, has been pretty adamant about not offering an Accountancy program, mainly because of its emphasis on organizational leadership rather than line-level work such as accountancy.” [Ateneo is really a school for the country’s elite, who would not want to be bean-counters.]

“On their quip about national artists and scientists: First, yes, this speaks about the quality of a particular school's alumni or alumnae.” [Indeed. No shady lawyers or first gentlemen.]

“Then they go on to bash the Ateneo as an institution only affordable by the wealthy, hence the good student-faculty ratio. They have not even bothered to do research as regards individual scholarship programs offered by the four THE-QS-ranked schools (and might have found that close to one in five Ateneo students is receiving some sort of financial aid).” [Maybe you should do research too, and see how many more scholars these other schools have compared to yours.]

“But wait, there's more! They also rant about competing with Harvard. The thing is, the question is not about competing with Harvard. Competing with Harvard, if even imagined, is something that is going to be very difficult, simply because Harvard works very hard, regardless of the rankings, to maintain its preeminence.” [If you understood the survey, there is one component there where Harvard is given a perfect 100 and all the rest are measured against it. As a result, they get lower scores. Obviously THE-QS “failed to appreciate the fact that our approaches to education differ greatly.”]

“The University of Chicago, for example, has, if I remember correctly, the most number of Nobel Laureates teaching in the faculty.” [This should be another very good key result area.]

“But as a paper that actually thinks it is one of the best school papers around, it has certainly failed to engage in the journalistic practice of seeking balance.” [Balance? In an opinion piece? Do you even read newspapers?]

8:54 PM  
Blogger mikosamson said...

Thank you for your comment, whoever you are.

I've addressed your comments in sequence.

1. According to the Oxford Dictionary, the precise definition of "smattering" means "a slight superficial knowledge of something." With that, the "sic" is appropriate. I could have also used the same editorial device as regards "sour-grapping," but that would have been unnecessary.

2. Barely a university? Again, based on what standard? The Varsitarian failed to clarify what standard it uses to define being a university. The measures it tried to use (number of programs offered, licensure exams) are insufficient.

3. I made that comment knowing Yale quite well. I am therefore quite aware of both its institutional size, its offerings, and the fact that it does not resort to a pissing contest based on number of programs offered nor places a stupid amount of emphasis on performance in post-graduation licensing exams in order to measure its "excellence." Again, this is because these things hardly define "excellence."

4. The NUMBER of examinees who passed? Then that's not much of a measure. Again, differences in size. Or were you referring to percentage? Again, that doesn't do much to measure excellence, but merely measures compliance with a government-set standard for the practice of a profession. Do you mean, therefore, that excellence is measured by capacity to comply with a standard set by government?

5. You are quoting out of context. I said:

" Performance in licensing exams is hardly the best measure of 'academic excellence,' much less 'comparable' academic excellence. This is probably the very simple reason why no international league table uses them as a measure."

Comparable academic excellence. Given that many schools abroad are not as obsessed as UST when it comes to board exams, then that sort of measure won't work. That's why they aren't used. Perception, while perhaps not a superior measure, is at least something that can be compared. Besides, a school that does ridiculously well as regards licensing exams might just score high if it is perceived to be excellent because of this measure.

6. Wrong. The sheer number of centers of excellence is unreliable because it cannot be properly measured across institutions, many of whom do not design programs the same way. It really doesn't take much analysis to reach this conclusion, just an open mind.

7. If you have done your homework, you would have read that the desired emphasis of the academic program is leadership formation. It is not directed at training bean-counters. So yes, if that's what you mean by "elite." Unless, of course, you have another, more snide definition.

8. This also does not say anything about shady-ness. Please think.

9. Discounting UP, where all students are practically on a scholarship even considering the limited government subsidy, I have yet to see figures that show how other schools compare with the Ateneo as regards the percent of the student population receiving financial aid. Note that my saying "one in five" is only a reference to the scholarship program offered by the office of admission and aid, and does not count those given financial aid by other sources. So since you seem to be so much more knowledgeable, I dare you to post figures.

10. I understand the survey. Re-read my comments about Harvard, in full, again.

11. It might be. But this is also the subject of some criticism surrounding the Shanghai Jiao Tong rankings.

12. Yes. Balance. Even in an opinion piece. I know this because I read papers, all of them better reads than the Varsitarian. And having worked in this field before, I know for a fact that every journalist has to strike a balance. Unless, of course, it's shameless sensationalism he's after. I do not wish to think that's the position of the Varsitarian.

9:51 PM  
Blogger columnist police said...

I've addressed your comments in sequence. [Again, in brackets.]

1. According to the Oxford Dictionary, the precise definition of "smattering" means "a slight superficial knowledge of something." With that, the "sic" is appropriate. I could have also used the same editorial device as regards "sour-grapping," but that would have been unnecessary. [My point is, nit-picking is such a poor way to argue.]

2. Barely a university? Again, based on what standard? The Varsitarian failed to clarify what standard it uses to define being a university. The measures it tried to use (number of programs offered, licensure exams) are insufficient. [The point is, at least in this country, through objective measures like board exam results, it's easy to know why Ateneo is not the top Philippine university. You just don't want to accept that that is one measure because you don't take as many boards as other schools.]

3. I made that comment knowing Yale quite well. I am therefore quite aware of both its institutional size, its offerings, and the fact that it does not resort to a pissing contest based on number of programs offered nor places a stupid amount of emphasis on performance in post-graduation licensing exams in order to measure its "excellence." Again, this is because these things hardly define "excellence." [I'd say THE-QS places a stupid amount of emphasis on perception. That's why even US universities don't care what it says.]

4. The NUMBER of examinees who passed? Then that's not much of a measure. Again, differences in size. Or were you referring to percentage? Again, that doesn't do much to measure excellence, but merely measures compliance with a government-set standard for the practice of a profession. Do you mean, therefore, that excellence is measured by capacity to comply with a standard set by government?
[I'd very much prefer standards set by the professional boards composed of professionals in their respective fields rather than standards set by some London consultancy.]

5. You are quoting out of context. I said:

" Performance in licensing exams is hardly the best measure of 'academic excellence,' much less 'comparable' academic excellence. This is probably the very simple reason why no international league table uses them as a measure."

Comparable academic excellence. Given that many schools abroad are not as obsessed as UST when it comes to board exams, then that sort of measure won't work. That's why they aren't used. Perception, while perhaps not a superior measure, is at least something that can be compared. Besides, a school that does ridiculously well as regards licensing exams might just score high if it is perceived to be excellent because of this measure. [I'd very much prefer to do ridiculously well in board exams than be perceived as excellent when I am really not.]

6. Wrong. The sheer number of centers of excellence is unreliable because it cannot be properly measured across institutions, many of whom do not design programs the same way. It really doesn't take much analysis to reach this conclusion, just an open mind. [In any case you have admitted that the Ateneo is such a small school.]

7. If you have done your homework, you would have read that the desired emphasis of the academic program is leadership formation. It is not directed at training bean-counters. So yes, if that's what you mean by "elite." Unless, of course, you have another, more snide definition. [Check the Oxford dictionary.]

8. This also does not say anything about shady-ness. Please think. [My bad. I should be looking for the really outstanding Ateneo alumni rather than keep on hitting on the few bad eggs.]

9. Discounting UP, where all students are practically on a scholarship even considering the limited government subsidy, I have yet to see figures that show how other schools compare with the Ateneo as regards the percent of the student population receiving financial aid. Note that my saying "one in five" is only a reference to the scholarship program offered by the office of admission and aid, and does not count those given financial aid by other sources. So since you seem to be so much more knowledgeable, I dare you to post figures. [I don't have it here. Let me get back to you.]

10. I understand the survey. Re-read my comments about Harvard, in full, again. [I did. The methodology of THE-QS survey really sucks.]

11. It might be. But this is also the subject of some criticism surrounding the Shanghai Jiao Tong rankings. [I guess the criticism is valid.]

12. Yes. Balance. Even in an opinion piece. I know this because I read papers, all of them better reads than the Varsitarian. And having worked in this field before, I know for a fact that every journalist has to strike a balance. Unless, of course, it's shameless sensationalism he's after. I do not wish to think that's the position of the Varsitarian. [Well, read some more. Yes, every journalist has to strike a balance, but only when they work for the news pages. Do you mean that if the Inquirer editorial page asks Gloria to resign, and lists its reasons why, does Gloria have to have an equal amount of column inch to air her side on that same space? Does the Inquirer have to list the pros and cons? Of course, not.]

10:57 PM  
Blogger mikosamson said...

Hello again, columnist police.

Your comments have been addressed in sequence.

1. I was not arguing when I used "sic." And if nitpicking is a poor way of arguing, then what are you doing?

2. The fact of the matter is, though, the board exam results are not comparable among countries. Hence, the survey's non-use of them. And again, the Varsitarian has failed to clarify or justify its emphasis on board exam results, which are an insufficient measure. Other objective measures insist, such as voluntary accreditation, but since this is not comparable across international borders, these were also not used. And we know where the universities from this country stand as regards that other measure.

I have no qualms about using the board exam results as a measure of school performance. But to limit the discussion to them, or to frame the discussion using them, as the Varsitarian has, is intellectually dishonest.

3. I respect that position. Assuming that it's a valid observation, the fact of the matter is, "perception" can be measured across countries in an international survey such as this, which is why THE-QS used it. And it's them who sets the criteria. And yes, one is free not to give much weight to what the survey results say. But I maintain that the manner in which the Varsitarian approached the matter is intellectually dishonest, for reasons already stated.

4. You probably would, and I probably would if I wanted to measure performance as regards some fields in the Philippines. I would, however, trust the London consultancy if I wanted a measure that allowed me to spot schools in certain regions, and then use some equivalent of the PRC exam results if I wanted to gauge performance as regards compliance with professional regulation. I would not, however, relate "excellence" with "compliance with government standards."

5. Define "excellence" first. Then maybe we can engage in a more meaningful discussion on this point.

6. Yes, it is, by design.

7. The Oxford dictionary defines it thus: "a group of people considered to be the best in a particular group of society." In my opinion, it fits the point on leadership formation, instead of training bean-counters.

8. Right.

9. Thanks.

10. In your opinion, and the opinion of many others. I've written about the rankings before, with my latest position being that the rankings are insufficient in terms of perspective.

11. The criticism seems quite valid, especially since the argument usually is the Shanghai Jiao Tong ranking favors Western universities too much, or wealthy universities too much, or places too much emphasis on the sciences. On the other hand, if the Nobel prize or Fields Medal is an indication of a scholar's preeminence, having a lot of these guys in a faculty might be indicative of the collective preeminence of a particular faculty (the idea of having a community of those who are excellent). So the criticism is valid if the info given is not what you're looking for, I guess.

12. Point taken. I disagree that balance is limited to news pages, since opinion columns are influential and can set the agenda of discussion for many people. And in light of the disclaimer rendered in the first part of the editorial, I would have expected the Varsitarian editors to have at least held themselves to their own standard.

3:59 AM  
Blogger columnist police said...

Hello again, columnist police. [You seem to be a nice guy, so let’s not use UAAP basketball fan tactics here anymore.]

Your comments have been addressed in sequence. [Same here.]

1. I was not arguing when I used "sic." And if nitpicking is a poor way of arguing, then what are you doing? [Yeah. But there is this tendency by people to sic. Hey, blogs would have sics all over, you know. So, it’s pointless unless the writer doesn’t really know English.]

2. The fact of the matter is, though, the board exam results are not comparable among countries. Hence, the survey's non-use of them. And again, the Varsitarian has failed to clarify or justify its emphasis on board exam results, which are an insufficient measure. Other objective measures insist, such as voluntary accreditation, but since this is not comparable across international borders, these were also not used. And we know where the universities from this country stand as regards that other measure.

I have no qualms about using the board exam results as a measure of school performance. But to limit the discussion to them, or to frame the discussion using them, as the Varsitarian has, is intellectually dishonest. [You look at it as “limiting.” I look at it as “adding” to the discussion, especially as some people tend to disregard it. Doing well there is not a ridiculous thing. What I’m saying is, board exam performances are a big deal, and separates the really good schools from the diploma mills. Just look at the nursing board exams.]

3. I respect that position. Assuming that it's a valid observation, the fact of the matter is, "perception" can be measured across countries in an international survey such as this, which is why THE-QS used it. And it's them who sets the criteria. And yes, one is free not to give much weight to what the survey results say. But I maintain that the manner in which the Varsitarian approached the matter is intellectually dishonest, for reasons already stated. [I’d say the language was colorful, and gauging from the reaction in the blogosphere, stimulating. Hey, look at the Manila Bulletin editorials. If all editorials were written that way, the opinion page would be like the obituary.]

4. You probably would, and I probably would if I wanted to measure performance as regards some fields in the Philippines. I would, however, trust the London consultancy if I wanted a measure that allowed me to spot schools in certain regions, and then use some equivalent of the PRC exam results if I wanted to gauge performance as regards compliance with professional regulation. I would not, however, relate "excellence" with "compliance with government standards." [Now, you’re being reasonable. PRC results really have some bearing.]

5. Define "excellence" first. Then maybe we can engage in a more meaningful discussion on this point. [This is going to be a lengthy one. I have my own criteria for excellence. But that is for another day.]

6. Yes, it is, by design. [Definitely a school for the elite, no matter how many scholars are there.]

7. The Oxford dictionary defines it thus: "a group of people considered to be the best in a particular group of society." In my opinion, it fits the point on leadership formation, instead of training bean-counters. [Yes, I remember, “Men for others.”]

8. Right. [I’m tempted to say it’s hard to list really good Ateneo alumni, but there’s Jose Rizal, who also studied in UST.]

9. Thanks. [Forthcoming.]

10. In your opinion, and the opinion of many others. I've written about the rankings before, with my latest position being that the rankings are insufficient in terms of perspective. [Which is also the point of the Varsitarian editorial.]

11. The criticism seems quite valid, especially since the argument usually is the Shanghai Jiao Tong ranking favors Western universities too much, or wealthy universities too much, or places too much emphasis on the sciences. On the other hand, if the Nobel prize or Fields Medal is an indication of a scholar's preeminence, having a lot of these guys in a faculty might be indicative of the collective preeminence of a particular faculty (the idea of having a community of those who are excellent). So the criticism is valid if the info given is not what you're looking for, I guess. [Nicely argued.]

12. Point taken. [Thank you.] I disagree that balance is limited to news pages, since opinion columns are influential and can set the agenda of discussion for many people. [Well, tell that to De Quiros, who is very influential and who attacks GMA almost everyday. What I mean to say is that the opinion page is the hallmark of the freedom of speech. And I can say something there about the Ateneo without having to ask Fr. Nebres’ permission first.] And in light of the disclaimer rendered in the first part of the editorial, I would have expected the Varsitarian editors to have at least held themselves to their own standard. [You may disagree with the way the editorial was written, but let me say no other school paper has grabbed this much attention. Lame editorials won’t just get the point across.]

5:13 AM  
Blogger mikosamson said...

Hello, comment police. Thanks for taking time to write again.

Again, points in sequence.

1. Point noted.

2. Clearly, then, we disagree on that particular point. I still do not think they are an adequate measure of excellence, and I do not think that they are appropriate for a survey such as THE-QS.

3. Again, we disagree. My position has not changed. And I trust that the authors of the editorial are capable of writing in a balanced, honest manner no matter how pointed they wanted the editorial to be.

4. Again, they probably do. But again, not in a manner appropriate for world rankings.

5. Point taken.

6. In the sense that "elite" was defined by the Oxford dictionary, then I will have to agree.

7. The formulation has been recast over time as "men and women for and with others."

8. I myself will be able to make a list of Ateneo alumni so wonderful I want God to remove them from the face of the earth already. But again, that wasn't the point. Rizal needs little discussion. Rizal and UST? That I'd like to see the Varsitarian write about. Hahaha.

9. All right.

10. If that was the point, I am of the opinion that it was poorly crafted and communicated, and the extensive Ateneo-bashing, unnecessary.

11. Thank you.

12. On De Quiros: I'm not convinced that De Quiros is as effective as he seems to be. He's definitely witty, and a reasonably gifted writer. But I think he overdoes it from time to time.

On the Varsitarian: All the more for an emphasis on balance. I'd think that grabbing attention was not the point. And with the attention comes the responsibility for balance. That's all.

5:49 AM  
Blogger columnist police said...

Two points.

I forgot to comment about accreditation. Well, UST of course wants to be level 4. But hey, have you seen their instruments? You'd be surprised how these accreditors accredit and you'd even be more surprised how they even became accreditors.

On Rizal. Often Rizal biographies harp about how Rizal got higher grades from Ateneo than from UST. Ateneo that time was the equivalent of a high school today although they granted the bachelor of arts degree. UST was the only university that time. Rizal's grades were for university education.

Oh, and most of Rizal's Ateneo classmates got honors. In UST at the time, not all were given honors. And the historians like Zaide didn't note that some of Rizal's mestizo UST classmates fell by the wayside whereas Rizal passed. No discrimination there.

Remember also that Rizal shifted from law to medicine in UST. So to make up for lost time, he wanted to take up pre-med and first year med at the same time. This required special dispensation, and this was given to him.

Now, this is not to say that there was no grain of truth to that chapter in El Fili about how backward UST was. I just wanted to say that there is more to Rizal and UST's relationship than what the standard textbooks say. I don't know if the Ateneo history profs ever discuss that.

7:23 AM  
Blogger Da Ghoul said...

Very entertaining. But, of course, we do not read blogs (or editorials) merely for entertainment (although sometimes we don't seem to have much choice). The exchange is very enlightening - but especially on the writers' possible character. And if character of its products would be one reliable measure of the effectiveness - or excellence - of a school, the exchange here would make a very interesting case study (the careful assumption is, mikosamson is an Atenean; on the other hand, columnist police's knowledge of UST and the content of his/her writings seem to strongly suggest that s/he is from or is a graduate of UST).

8:10 PM  
Blogger mikosamson said...

columnist police:


On accreditation, yes, I've seen the instruments and the voluminous amount of documentation that is involved in the accreditation process, which is akin to those assessment processes for ISO certification. It's very difficult for the bias of individual accreditors to influence the outcome.

On Rizal, having read numerous accounts, there is much more scant information about what happened to Rizal in UST than what happened to him at the Ateneo. This is, I think, because Rizal wrote much more about his years at the Ateneo (and by this I mean apart from the chapter in El Filibusterismo). But even Rizal historians like Ambeth Ocampo point out that the clear facts are few: (1) Rizal graduated sobresaliente from the Ateneo Municipal with an AB, (2) after his AB, he attended UST but did not finish. The rest of the information seems to be a slough of facts that are all decidedly colored and have to be taken with a grain of salt, and all of which cannot describe what was obviously Rizal's take on whatever "relationship" he had with a place. As regards his take on things, however, his writings are all we have. Ateneo historians point that out.

8:27 PM  
Blogger columnist police said...

[In brackets]

On accreditation, yes, I've seen the instruments and the voluminous amount of documentation that is involved in the accreditation process, which is akin to those assessment processes for ISO certification. It's very difficult [but not impossible] for the bias of individual accreditors to influence the outcome. [As I said, being level 4 accredited is desirable. But having seen how these accreditors (and who are they by the way? the recent ones I saw came from some third-rate southern Luzon school) have gone about the process, and the outdated instruments they use, I also would not put a stupid amount of emphasis on it.]

On Rizal, having read numerous accounts [Read Fr. Villarroel, O.P.'s book, an apologia, but good alternative reading], there is much more scant information about what happened to Rizal in UST [Read Fr. Villarroel. Obviously you did not know there is such a thing as the UST archives.] than what happened to him at the Ateneo. This is, I think, because Rizal wrote much more about his years at the Ateneo (and by this I mean apart from the chapter in El Filibusterismo) [There is also documentary evidence which can add to the discussion.] But even Rizal historians like Ambeth Ocampo point out that the clear facts are few: (1) Rizal graduated sobresaliente from the Ateneo Municipal with an AB, [along with a lot of others given sobresalientes in the Ateneo] (2) after his AB [his "high school" diploma], he attended UST but did not finish. [because he had to go to Spain!] The rest of the information seems to be a slough of facts that are all decidedly colored and have to be taken with a grain of salt [no, this is based on documents], and all of which cannot describe [not a full description of course, but Rizal's writings also are not a full description themselves], what was obviously Rizal's take on whatever "relationship" he had with a place. As regards his take on things, however, his writings are all we have. Ateneo historians point that out [using history books that are also "colored".]

[I did not say UST was Rizal's favorite school. But UST discriminating against him? Please go beyond what the Ateneo archives has.]

12:41 AM  
Blogger mikosamson said...

columnist police:

On accreditation: The process is the process, and that's the process sanctioned by both law and the standards used by the particular accrediting agency. Who the individual accreditors are is, in my view, irrelevant.

On Rizal: Thanks for the suggestion. I've heard about Villaroel's book from several friends of mine, but I've never been able to find one readily available, nor have I found the time to actually buy one, much less take a trip to the vicinity of UST just so I can browse through the much-hyped (by these friends, and lately, by you) UST archives. And that's assuming reading the book or going through the archived material would dramatically change my views on Rizal and what I know of his story.

If I wanted to read about Rizal's perspectives, though, I'd follow the method that my history professors used in our classes and go read Rizal's own writings. Rizal's perspectives would probably be clearer through those materials. And that exercise would probably serve both my purpose and interest than reading another "colored" history book, like Villaroel's, or books by any other author who'd like me to accept an unnecessary (to me and what I need to know) take directed at self-aggrandizement or promotion or justification or public relations. Any serious Rizal academic would know that Rizal's writings are already full of that sort of stuff. I don't even need to take a trip to the Ateneo or UST archives to understand that.

8:56 AM  
Blogger columnist police said...

[Hello.]

[Not picking up a fight over Rizal. I know he hated UST. He wrote about it. But the discrimination story is not entirely true. Partly, maybe, but not entirely. The dispensation thing I mentioned was no small matter. Rizal was not mestizo, but he was given dispensation. Others did not have that privilege.]

[Guess what? Villarroel simply wants to make that case. It's an apologia. I told you that. I told you it would be good alternative reading. Doesn't mean your favorite other historians (like Ambeth who had said Rizal being the national hero over Bonifacio was an American colonial imposition) are crap.]

[And guess what? Your Rizal Library has several copies of the 1984 book. I can give you the call number. DS675.8.R5 V57. Read first before you tell me it's all about public relations or self-aggrandizement or promotion or justification by a National Book Awardee and a respected scholar who made the case for Lorenzo Ruiz's sainthood at the Vatican. You need to visit the library once in a while, right?]

10:48 AM  
Blogger mikosamson said...

columnist police:

Noted, and thanks for the call number. I'll read the book the next time I actually drop by Rizal Library. I'll probably do so when I drop by to do my research and am in need of lighter reading when I take a break. God knows I'm in need of alternative reading.

Now, just to put this into context: You're recommending that I read this book because of a point you raised about Rizal and UST, in light of a remark you made earlier about Ateneo alumni, set further in the context of a reaction I had to a Varsitarian reaction to the THE-QS rankings.

On Rizal and UST, I maintain that the best source for determining Rizal's take on UST is his own body of (self-edited) writings. I'm glad we've settled that. What would probably make more sense to me than reading Villaroel's book, though, is to see if Rizal's writing reveal any sentiment he had toward the Dominican friars that ran UST. I'm guessing that his gripes weren't with UST itself, but with the people who ran it. But then again, I'll need to read on that. And rest assured, if ever I find the Villaroel book in the library I'm in, I'll read it too.

On historians, one of my favorite Philippine historians is somebody I've never met, and will never meet, because he's dead. As for Ambeth Ocampo, he was certainly one of my more entertaining professors, and I'm glad to be his friend. But I'm not sure if Ambeth is my "favorite."

On Villaroel, you seem to have taken my remark on "public relations or self-aggrandizement or promotion or justification" the wrong way—I wasn't referring to him in particular, or if ever it seems that I was, not him alone. Hence, quips about Villaroel's credentials or whose case he helped make in the Vatican are irrelevant and unnecessary to me, since I am not even talking about that.

Getting back to the topic of my blog post: My position remains unchanged: The THE-QS rankings are insufficient. And while they are useful, in the sense that they provide some measure of comparability in an international context, I maintain that they do not adequately measure "academic excellence." But they rank what they rank, and are effective in their own way. I do not think we need go into apologias in order to accept that particular point.

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